Phillips, Rufus

Army

"And a fellow came around and was contacting folks to see if they wanted to serve. And he wouldn't say how, except he asked, ‘Well, would you be willing to jump out of an airplane behind enemy lines?’ And I rather foolishly said yes."

Description of Interview:

Rufus Phillips grew up in Southside Virginia. He went to Yale University, where he was recruited (and later trained) by the CIA. When an assignment in Germany fell through, he volunteered for the Army. He did basic training at Indiantown Gap, then went to Fort Benning for infantry OCS and jump school. The Army then detailed him back to the CIA in 1953, and he was sent to Korea, where he served until he was reassigned to Vietnam. He arrived in Vietnam for the first time just two days before the Geneva Accords went into effect in July 1954. He worked for Edward Lansdale for two years, advising the South Vietnamese army on civic action. In 1956, Phillips left the Army, returned to the CIA as a case officer, and went to Laos to work on civic action there. He left the CIA in 1959, worked for the family engineering business for a few years, then returned to Vietnam in 1962, this time with USAID at the behest of the White House. He discusses his friendship with Diem, his sadness upon hearing of his execution, and his disappointment with the U.S. bureaucracy in Vietnam. He comments on MAAG, the CIA, USIS, USAID, USOM, MACV, the Saigon Military Mission, the Strategic Hamlet Program, and CORDS. He remembers the Majestic Hotel, NSC meetings, McNamara’s Circus, and the Binh Xuyen criminal enterprise. And he fondly recalls his personal interactions with President Kennedy, President Diem, Edward Lansdale, John Paul Vann, Lou Conein, and many others.

Key Words: Middletown, Ohio, Southside Virginia, Charlotte County, Appomattox, Indiantown Gap, Fort Benning, infantry OCS, jump school, Yale, CIA, Korea, Saigon Military Mission, MAAG, Clark Field, Geneva Accords, Majestic Hotel, Viet Minh, psywar, Psychological Warfare, Philippines, Huks, Prime Minister Ngo Dinh Diem, Bao Dai, Binh Xuyen, MACV, Pentagon East, USIS (U.S. Information Service), USOM (U.S. Overseas Mission), USAID (U.S. Agency for International Development), Strategic Hamlet Program, McNamara Circus, IVS (International Volunteer Service), counterinsurgency, boat people, assassination, coup
 
Key Names: Colonel Edward G. Lansdale, President Eisenhower, Paul Linebarger, President Magsaysay, Prime Minister Ngo Dinh Diem, Bao Dai, General Collins, General O'Daniel, Henry Cabot Lodge, President John F. Kennedy, Secretary Robert McNamara, John Paul Vann, Neil Sheehan, Joe Mendenhall, General Krulak, Nhu, Ho Chi Minh, Lucien Emile "Lou" Conein, General Big Minh (Duong Van Minh)
 
Interview Date:
October 03, 2016
 
Service Date:
1954-1968
 
Unit: 
U.S. Agency for International Development, Strategic Hamlet Program
 
Specialty:
Assistant Director for Rural Affairs
 
Service Location:

Saigon

 
 

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